Re: Trouble passing array to f90 subroutine using WRAPIT

From: David Rasmussen <drasmussen_at_nyahnyahspammersnyahnyah>
Date: Tue Aug 27 2013 - 20:31:32 MDT

I am using an even newer version of gfortran, V4.6.2 -- I installed:
gfortran-4.6.2-x86_64-Lion.dmg

I am also running Mountain Lion.

This thread from a few years ago seems to discuss the problem with not
being able to write floats or characters on newer Macs...
http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/Support/install_archives/2011/0166.html

Was NCL V6.1.2 built with an older version of gfortran? Could this
inconsistency be the cause of the trouble here?

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Mary Haley <haley@ucar.edu> wrote:

> David,
>
> I was using a newer gcc and gfortran, V4.5.0. which is installed in
> /usr/local/bin on my machine.
>
> I edited WRAPIT to force it to use /usr/bin/gcc, but given that my
> gfortran is still the 4.5.0 one, I'm not sure if this is a fair test.
>
> Note that I have to use the "-m64", because the MacOS binary was built
> using the "-m64" option for both gcc and gfortran.
>
> Here's the output with -d, using my modified WRAPIT:
>
> % ./WRAPIT -m64 -d writearr2.f90 writearr2.stub
>
> WRAPIT Version: 120209
> OPERATING SYSTEM: Darwin
> FORTRAN COMPILER (f90c): gfortran
> FORTRAN COMPILER OPTIONS (fopts): -m64 -fPIC -v -c -fno-second-underscore
> /usr/bin/gcc -m64 -c -fno-common -I/Users/haley/dev/6.1.2/include WRAPIT.c
> COMPILING writearr2.f90
> gfortran -m64 -fPIC -v -c -fno-second-underscore writearr2.f90
> Using built-in specs.
> Target: x86_64-apple-darwin10
> Configured with: ../gcc-4.5-20090910/configure
> --enable-languages=fortran,c++ --host=x86_64-apple-darwin10
> --build=x86_64-apple-darwin10
> Thread model: posix
> gcc version 4.5.0 20090910 (experimental) (GCC)
> COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS='-mmacosx-version-min=10.6' '-m64' '-fPIC' '-v' '-c'
> '-fno-second-underscore' '-mtune=generic'
> /usr/local/gfortran-4.5/bin/../libexec/gcc/x86_64-apple-darwin10/4.5.0/f951
> writearr2.f90 -fPIC -quiet -dumpbase writearr2.f90
> -mmacosx-version-min=10.6 -m64 -mtune=generic -auxbase writearr2 -version
> -fPIC -fno-second-underscore -fintrinsic-modules-path
> /usr/local/gfortran-4.5/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-apple-darwin10/4.5.0/finclude
> -o /var/folders/9z/124fjm895y100zbw_00f3mvs7w48jt/T//ccW35pLy.s
> GNU Fortran (GCC) version 4.5.0 20090910 (experimental)
> (x86_64-apple-darwin10)
> compiled by GNU C version 4.5.0 20090910 (experimental), GMP
> version 4.3.1, MPFR version 2.4.1, MPC version 0.7
> GGC heuristics: --param ggc-min-expand=30 --param ggc-min-heapsize=4096
> GNU Fortran (GCC) version 4.5.0 20090910 (experimental)
> (x86_64-apple-darwin10)
> compiled by GNU C version 4.5.0 20090910 (experimental), GMP
> version 4.3.1, MPFR version 2.4.1, MPC version 0.7
> GGC heuristics: --param ggc-min-expand=30 --param ggc-min-heapsize=4096
> COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS='-mmacosx-version-min=10.6' '-m64' '-fPIC' '-v' '-c'
> '-fno-second-underscore' '-mtune=generic'
> as -arch x86_64 -force_cpusubtype_ALL -o writearr2.o
> /var/folders/9z/124fjm895y100zbw_00f3mvs7w48jt/T//ccW35pLy.s
>
> COMPILER_PATH=/usr/local/gfortran-4.5/bin/../libexec/gcc/x86_64-apple-darwin10/4.5.0/:/usr/local/gfortran-4.5/bin/../libexec/gcc/
>
> LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/gfortran-4.5/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-apple-darwin10/4.5.0/:/usr/local/gfortran-4.5/bin/../lib/gcc/:/usr/local/gfortran-4.5/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-apple-darwin10/4.5.0/../../../:/usr/lib/
> COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS='-mmacosx-version-min=10.6' '-m64' '-fPIC' '-v' '-c'
> '-fno-second-underscore' '-mtune=generic'
> COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS='-mmacosx-version-min=10.6' '-m64' '-fPIC' '-v' '-c'
> '-fno-second-underscore' '-mtune=generic'
> SHARED OBJECT NAME (SharedObj): writearr2.so
> LINKER SUFFIX (ld_suffix): WRAPIT.o writearr2.o -o writearr2.so
>
> LINKING
> /usr/bin/gcc -m64 -bundle -flat_namespace -undefined suppress WRAPIT.o
> writearr2.o -o writearr2.so -lgfortran
> END WRAPIT
>
> ellabell[548] ncl writearr2.ncl
> Copyright (C) 1995-2013 - All Rights Reserved
> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
> NCAR Command Language Version 6.1.2
> The use of this software is governed by a License Agreement.
> See http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/ for more details.
> (0) xtas(0,0) in NCL: 0.323711
> 0.324
>
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:33 PM, David Rasmussen wrote:
>
> > This may be more of a system related issue. What version of xcode and/or
> gcc is Mary using? Can she do a WRAPIT -d? I am running gcc version 4.2.1
> (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2336.11.00)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Rick Brownrigg <brownrig@ucar.edu>
> wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > This issue is quite perplexing, as my colleague Mary Haley is able to
> run the code you sent yesterday just fine on her Mac, on all 6.x.x versions
> of NCL. I don't have anything but the current code trunk (i.e., 6.2.0)
> available to test in my Mac.
> >
> > In any case, perhaps the attached binary will work for you? Let me know
> if not…
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:56 AM, David Rasmussen <drasmussen@ucdavis.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> 'fbinrecwrite' will be useful for future applications. The current
> task deals with several records, so a faster method (i.e. fortran) is
> needed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Dennis Shea <shea@ucar.edu> wrote:
> >> Of course, if it was just 'xtas' or 'itas' ... you could
> >> use 'fbinrecwrite'
> >>
> >> fbin = "foo.bin" ; ".bin" is not needed
> >>
> >> head = (/ year,month, day, hour/) ; header record
> >>
> >> fbinrecwrite(fbin, -1, head) ; header
> >> fbinrecwrite(fbin, -1, xtas) ; float
> >> fbinrecwrite(fbin, -1, itas) ; integer
> >>
> >> The issue with NCL's fbinrecwrite are:
> >> (1) it only allows one variable/type.
> >> Unlike fortran which allows multiple variable
> >> of mixed type: write(...) head, xtas, itas
> >>
> >> (2) when there are *many* records being written it can
> >> become slow.
> >>
> >> http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/Document/Functions/Built-in/fbinrecwrite.shtml
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/26/13 8:29 PM, brownrig@ucar.edu wrote:
> >> David,
> >>
> >> We can most likely get you a 6.2.0-prerelease; let me get back to you
> >> in the morning on that.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:25:40 -0400
> >> David Rasmussen <drasmussen@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> >> I am on a mac with the current version of NCL: 6.1.2
> >>
> >> Like Dennis, I too produce the error with the current version:
> >>
> >> (0) xtas(1,1) in NCL: 0.387302
> >> At line 6 of file writearr2.f90 (unit = 6, file = 'stdout')
> >> Internal Error: list_formatted_write(): Bad type
> >>
> >> Both Rick and Dennis had success running the code with NCL 6.2.0 on
> >> a Mac.
> >> Are binaries of NCL 6.2.0 for OS X available as beta software at
> >> this time?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Dennis Shea <shea@ucar.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> To my knowledge, there has been nothing explicitly
> >> done with NCL's WRAPIT in a *long* time.
> >>
> >> I used the following and added one extra print [write(*/6,...) ]:
> >>
> >>
> >> subroutine writearr(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> implicit none
> >> integer, intent(in) ::ntim,nmod
> >> real, intent(in) ::xtas(ntim,nmod)
> >>
> >> print*,"f90: xtas(1,1)=", xtas(1,1)
> >>
> >> write(*,'(f6.3)') xtas(1,1) <==== or write(6,....)
> >> return
> >> end subroutine writearr
> >>
> >>
> >> ****ON MY MAC****, the , as yet unreleased NCL v6.2.0 works
> >> perfectly !
> >>
> >> %> ncl write.ncl_so
> >>
> >> Copyright (C) 1995-2013 - All Rights Reserved
> >>
> >> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
> >> NCAR Command Language Version 6.2.0-23Aug2013_0133 <========
> >>
> >> The use of this software is governed by a License Agreement.
> >> See http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/ for more details.
> >> (0) xtas(1,1) in NCL: 0.387302
> >> f90: xtas(1,1)= 0.323710531
> >> 0.324
> >> =================
> >>
> >> However, ****ON MY MAC****, with the current version of NCL: 6.1.2
> >>
> >> %> ncl write.ncl_so
> >>
> >> Copyright (C) 1995-2013 - All Rights Reserved
> >>
> >> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
> >> NCAR Command Language Version 6.1.2
> >>
> >> The use of this software is governed by a License Agreement.
> >> See http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/ for more details.
> >>
> >> (0) xtas(1,1) in NCL: 0.387302
> >> At line 6 of file writearr2.f90 (unit = 6, file = 'stdout')
> >> Internal Error: list_formatted_write(): Bad type
> >>
> >> *************************************************************
> >>
> >> However, on 2 independent linux systems (local divisional
> >> computers and on the yellowstone complex) the code
> >> works just fine with 6.1.2
> >>
> >> D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/26/13 1:43 PM, David Rasmussen wrote:
> >>
> >> I forgot to mention that when I tried passing a 2-D integer array, I
> >> re-declared all relevant variables as integers.
> >>
> >> What I found is that using...
> >>
> >> C NCLFORTSTART
> >> subroutine writeint(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> implicit none
> >> integer ntim,nmod
> >> integer xtas(nmod,ntim)
> >> C NCLEND
> >>
> >> ...works as expected. When I re-declare all relevant variables as
> >> floats/reals and use the following...
> >>
> >>
> >> C NCLFORTSTART
> >> subroutine writeflt(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> implicit none
> >>
> >> integer ntim,nmod
> >> real xtas(nmod,ntim)
> >> C NCLEND
> >>
> >> ...I get the error:
> >>
> >> Line: 32 write(6,'(f6.3)') xtas(1,1)
> >>
> >> At line 32 of file writearr.f90 (unit = 6, file = 'stdout')
> >> Fortran runtime error: Expected REAL for item 2 in formatted
> >> transfer, got
> >> CHARACTER
> >> (f6.3)
> >>
> >> ...when I print xtas(1,1) unformatted (i.e. using print*), I get
> >> "????" (4
> >> question marks).
> >>
> >> I am also changing data types & format codes in my .f90 and data
> >> types in
> >> my .ncl file in between these tests. Everything compiles without
> >> error.
> >>
> >> There seems to be an issue passing float/reals. I also tried passing
> >> double
> >> precision and the same result occurred. I am not sure why I am
> >> experiencing
> >> this behavior.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Dennis Shea <shea@ucar.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Below you created
> >>
> >>
> >> C NCLFORTSTART
> >> subroutine writearr(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> integer ntim,nmod
> >> real xtas(nmod,ntim)
> >> C NCLEND
> >>
> >>
> >> which declares 'xtas' as type 'real' (ie, a float)
> >>
> >> If you passed integers in 'xtas', there would be a problem.
> >> However, passing variables of type float/real should be
> >> exactly what is expected. Just the opposite of what you
> >> stated below. One approach to writing floats and
> >> integers is:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> C NCLFORTSTART
> >> subroutine writeint(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> implicit none
> >> integer ntim,nmod
> >> integer xtas(nmod,ntim)
> >> C NCLEND
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/26/13 12:55 PM, David Rasmussen wrote:
> >>
> >> I take back some of what I said. The problem seems to be dependent
> >> on
> >> the
> >> variable type. I can pass 2-D integer arrays just fine, but I have
> >> trouble
> >> with floats, which is what I would like to pass between NCL and my
> >> f90
> >> subroutine.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:34 PM, David Rasmussen <
> >> drasmussen@ucdavis.edu
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> No errors now, but when I print elements of the array I just get 4
> >>
> >> question marks (i.e "????") (I am guessing one for each byte?)
> >>
> >> When I try and format the output, Fortran tells me that my format
> >> choice
> >> is invalid because the data is of type character....
> >>
> >> Line: 32 write(6,'(f6.3)') xtas(1,1)
> >>
> >> At line 32 of file writearr.f90 (unit = 6, file = 'stdout')
> >> Fortran runtime error: Expected REAL for item 2 in formatted
> >> transfer,
> >> got
> >> CHARACTER
> >> (f6.3)
> >>
> >> I am able to print results from passed 1-D arrays OK. For passing
> >> 2-D
> >> arrays, does anything else special need to happen besides swapping
> >> array
> >> dimensions in the stub file? Again, my subroutine is f90.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Dennis Shea <shea@ucar.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Computer rule: Fastest varying dimension maps into fastest
> >>
> >> varying dimension. NCL (row major like C) is 0 based and the
> >> rightmost dimension varies fastest. Fortran is column major
> >> and the leftmost dimension varies fastest.
> >>
> >> Dimension order and subscripting are different for different
> >> languages.
> >>
> >> NCL: x(NA,NB,NC) <===> x(NC,NC,NA) : fortran
> >>
> >> In computer memory, think of the arrays as a long linear list and
> >> the
> >> elements are accessed via a particular language's conventions
> >>
> >> See: page 37: http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/****
> >> Document/Manuals/language_man.******<http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/***
> >> *Document/Manuals/language_**man.**<
> http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/**Document/Manuals/language_man.**>
> >>
> >> pdf <http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/****Document/Manuals/language_man.**
> >> **pdf
> >> <http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/**Document/Manuals/language_man.**pdf>
> >> <http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/**Document/Manuals/language_man.**pdf<
> http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/Document/Manuals/language_man.pdf>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> It should be:
> >>
> >>
> >> C NCLFORTSTART
> >> subroutine writearr(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> integer ntim,nmod
> >> real xtas(nmod,ntim)
> >> C NCLEND
> >>
> >> Note:No data rearranging should be done.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/26/13 8:47 AM, David Rasmussen wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to write an array of data to a text file, similar to
> >> this
> >> request from a previous thread:
> >> http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/******Support/talk_archives/2012/*****
> >> *0230.html<
> http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/****Support/talk_archives/2012/****0230.html>
> >> <http://www.ncl.**ucar.edu/**Support/talk_**
> >> archives/2012/**0230.html<
> http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/**Support/talk_archives/2012/**0230.html>
> >>
> >> <http://www.ncl.ucar.**edu/**Support/talk_archives/**2012/**
> >> 0230.html<http://www.ncl.ucar.**edu/Support/talk_archives/**
> >> 2012/0230.html<
> http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/Support/talk_archives/2012/0230.html>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have chosen to use WRAPIT to write my data to disk.
> >>
> >> I am trying to pass an array to an f90 subroutine, but NCL/WRAPIT
> >> keeps
> >> telling me that my array is not dimensioned correctly.
> >>
> >> I have an array defined in the driving NCL script as:
> >>
> >> xtas(ntim,nmod), where ntim=34675, nmod=33
> >>
> >> I would like to pass this array to a f90 routine. When I try and do
> >> this,
> >> the routine expects xtas to be dimensioned xtas(nmod,ntim) which is
> >> NOT
> >> how
> >> it is defined in the driving NCL script...
> >>
> >> fatal:writearr: dimension size of dimension (1) of xtas must be
> >> equal
> >> to
> >> the value of ntim
> >> fatal:["Execute.c":8128]:******Execute: Error occurred at or near
> >> line
> >>
> >> 226
> >>
> >> in
> >> file extract_BCSD_lat_lon.ncl
> >>
> >> The call to the routine in the NCL script is:
> >> WRITEARRAY::writearr(ntim,******nmod,xtas)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Immediately before calling the f90 routine, I do
> >> "printVarSummary(xtas)"...
> >>
> >> I get...
> >>
> >> Variable: xtas
> >> Type: float
> >> Total Size: 4577100 bytes
> >> 1144275 values
> >> Number of Dimensions: 2
> >> Dimensions and sizes: [34675] x [33]
> >> Coordinates:
> >> Number Of Attributes: 1
> >> _FillValue : -999.999
> >>
> >> The print summary for xtas is as expected...xtas(ntim,nmod)...
> >>
> >> my stub file is:
> >>
> >> C NCLFORTSTART
> >> subroutine writearr(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> integer ntim,nmod
> >> real xtas(ntim,nmod)
> >> C NCLEND
> >>
> >> my f90 routine is:
> >>
> >> subroutine writearr(ntim,nmod,xtas)
> >> integer ntim, nmod
> >> real xtas(ntim,nmod)
> >>
> >> print*, xtas
> >>
> >> return
> >> end subroutine writearr
> >>
> >> Both compile with no errors.
> >>
> >> Other info:
> >>
> >> WRAPIT Version: 120209
> >> OPERATING SYSTEM: Darwin
> >> FORTRAN COMPILER (f90c): gfortran
> >> FORTRAN COMPILER OPTIONS (fopts): -m64 -fPIC -v -c
> >> -fno-second-underscore
> >> gcc -m64 -c -fno-common -I/usr/local/ncl-6.1.2/include WRAPIT.c
> >> COMPILING writearr.f90
> >> gfortran -m64 -fPIC -v -c -fno-second-underscore writearr.f90
> >> Using built-in specs.
> >> COLLECT_GCC=gfortran
> >> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/******local/gfortran/libexec/gcc/**
> >> x86_64-apple-darwin11/4.6.2/******lto-wrapper
> >> Target: x86_64-apple-darwin11
> >> Configured with: ../gcc-4.6.2-RC-20111019/******configure
> >> --prefix=/usr/local/gfortran
> >> --with-gmp=/Users/fx/devel/******gcc/deps-static/x86_64
> >> --enable-languages=c,c++,******fortran,objc,obj-c++
> >>
> >>
> >> --build=x86_64-apple-darwin11
> >> Thread model: posix
> >> gcc version 4.6.2 20111019 (prerelease) (GCC)
> >> COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS='-mmacosx-******version-min=10.8.3' '-m64'
> >> '-fPIC'
> >> '-v'
> >> '-c'
> >> '-fno-second-underscore' '-mtune=core2'
> >> /usr/local/gfortran/libexec/******gcc/x86_64-apple-darwin11/4.**
> >> 6.**
> >>
> >> **2/f951
> >>
> >> writearr.f90 -fPIC -quiet -dumpbase writearr.f90
> >> -mmacosx-version-min=10.8.3 -m64 -mtune=core2 -auxbase writearr
> >> -version
> >> -fPIC -fno-second-underscore -fintrinsic-modules-path
> >> /usr/local/gfortran/lib/gcc/******x86_64-apple-darwin11/4.6.2/**
> >> ****finclude
> >> -o
> >> /var/folders/fl/******p8bxmn6x0gb7vk2qlzv90bdh0000gn**
> >> ****/T//cc8VXUoN.s
> >>
> >>
> >> GNU Fortran (GCC) version 4.6.2 20111019 (prerelease)
> >> (x86_64-apple-darwin11)
> >> compiled by GNU C version 4.6.2 20111019 (prerelease), GMP version
> >> 5.0.2,
> >> MPFR version 3.0.1-p4, MPC version 0.9
> >> GGC heuristics: --param ggc-min-expand=100 --param
> >> ggc-min-heapsize=131072
> >> GNU Fortran (GCC) version 4.6.2 20111019 (prerelease)
> >> (x86_64-apple-darwin11)
> >> compiled by GNU C version 4.6.2 20111019 (prerelease), GMP version
> >> 5.0.2,
> >> MPFR version 3.0.1-p4, MPC version 0.9
> >> GGC heuristics: --param ggc-min-expand=100 --param
> >> ggc-min-heapsize=131072
> >> COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS='-mmacosx-******version-min=10.8.3' '-m64'
> >> '-fPIC'
> >>
> >> '-v'
> >>
> >> '-c'
> >> '-fno-second-underscore' '-mtune=core2'
> >> as -arch x86_64 -force_cpusubtype_ALL -o writearr.o
> >> /var/folders/fl/******p8bxmn6x0gb7vk2qlzv90bdh0000gn**
> >> ****/T//cc8VXUoN.s
> >> COMPILER_PATH=/usr/local/******gfortran/libexec/gcc/x86_64-**
> >> apple-darwin11/4.6.2/:/usr/******local/gfortran/libexec/gcc/**
> >> x86_64-apple-darwin11/4.6.2/:/******usr/local/gfortran/**
> >> libexec/****
> >> gcc/x86_64-apple-darwin11/:/******usr/local/gfortran/lib/gcc/****
> >> x86_64-apple-darwin11/4.6.2/:/******usr/local/gfortran/lib/**
> >> gcc/****
> >> x86_64-apple-darwin11/
> >> LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/******gfortran/lib/gcc/x86_64-apple-******
> >> darwin11/4.6.2/:/usr/local/******gfortran/lib/gcc/x86_64-**
> >> apple-****
> >> darwin11/4.6.2/../../../:/usr/******lib/
> >> COLLECT_GCC_OPTIONS='-mmacosx-******version-min=10.8.3' '-m64'
> >> '-fPIC'
> >>
> >> '-v'
> >>
> >> '-c'
> >> '-fno-second-underscore' '-mtune=core2'
> >> SHARED OBJECT NAME (SharedObj): writearr2.so
> >> LINKER SUFFIX (ld_suffix): WRAPIT.o writearr.o
> >> -L/usr/local/gfortran/lib/
> >> -o writearr2.so
> >>
> >> LINKING
> >> gcc -m64 -bundle -flat_namespace -undefined suppress WRAPIT.o
> >> writearr.o
> >> -L/usr/local/gfortran/lib/ -o writearr2.so -lgfortran
> >> END WRAPIT
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